Chapter 58 Poisons—Part Three
Madam Yu looked behind her. JinZhu and YinZhu understood. Both unsheathed a long sword and circled the hall. With fast, merciless moves, they had killed all of the Wen Sect’s disciples within seconds. Wang LingJiao saw that it’d soon be her turn. She threatened with the last of her strength, “You… You think that you can silence me? You think Young Master Wen doesn’t know that I’m here today? You think that he’ll let you go, after he knows about this?!”
YinZhu sneered, “You sound as if he has let us go already.”
Wang LingJiao, “I’m close to Young Master Wen, I’m the closest one! If you dare do anything to me, he’ll…”
Madam Yu gave her another slap. She mocked, “He’ll do what? Cut our hands or our legs off? Or burn down our residence? Or lead thousands of people to raze Lotus Pier to the ground? Build a supervision office?”
JinZhu approached, sword in hand. Wang LingJiao’s eyes were filled with fear. Kicking her legs, she shrunk back as she shrieked, “Somebody! Help! Wen ZhuLiu! Help me!”
Madam Yu’s expression hardened. With one foot on Wang LingJiao’s wrist, she unsheathed her sword. Just as the blade was about to fall, it suddenly bounced away.
Wei WuXian and Jiang Cheng turned to look. The doors to the hall had already been blown apart, and a man of a tall physique barged inside. He wore black clothes and had on him a grave expression. It was Wen Chao’s personal guard, a cultivator of very high level, Wen ZhuLiu.
Her sword having fallen, Madam Yu held Zidian across her cheek, “Core-Melting Hand?”
Wen ZhuLiu’s voice was cold, “Violet Spider?”
One of Wang LingJiao’s hands was still under her foot. She felt so much pain that her features looked twisted, tears smeared all over, “Wen ZhuLiu! Wen ZhuLiu! Help me, help me now!”
Madam Yu snorted, “Wen ZhuLiu? Core-Melting Hand, isn’t your original name Zhao ZhuLiu? Your surname clearly wasn’t Wen, but you wanted to change your surname no matter what. Everyone’s rushing like ducklings. Is the surname of those Wen-dogs really that precious? Turning back on your ancestors—how laughable!”
Wen ZhuLiu remained unswayed, seemingly indifferent, “Each serves their own master.”
The two of them had just exchanged a few words, yet Wang LingJiao began to scream again, unable to bear it, “Wen ZhuLiu! Don’t you see what I look like?! Why are you chit-chatting instead of killing her right now?! Is this how Young Master Wen told you to protect me?! Watch out or else I’ll denounce you!”
Madam Yu ground her foot into her arm. Wang LingJiao broke into a wail. Wen ZhuLiu, on the other hand, knit his brows. He was protecting Wen Chao under Wen RuoHan’s orders. He’d never liked Wen Chao’s character to begin with. Yet, there were no worst circumstances, but only worse circumstances. Wen Chao ordered him to come protect Wang LingJiao. The woman was not only shallow and conceited but also cruel at heart, gaining much dislike from him. However, no matter how much he didn’t like her, he couldn’t go against Wen RuoHan and Wen Chao’s orders and kill her. The good thing was that Wang LingJiao loathed him as well. She ordered that he could only follow from a distance, prohibited from appearing in her sight unless she told him to, so that she wouldn’t be as annoyed. Yet, in such a situation, the woman was on the verge of losing her life. If he did nothing, Wen Chao would definitely fly into a rage and refuse to let him go. And if he refused to let him go, then Wen RuoHan wouldn’t leave the matter at that either.
Wen ZhuLiu, “Excuse me.”
Zidian flew out. Madam Yu shouted, “How pretentious!”
Wen ZhuLiu’s large hand waved. He grabbed Zidian without any concern!
When Zidian was in its whip form, it was covered in the flow of spiritual energy. The energy’s power could be either strong or weak, fatal or insignificant, dependant on the control of its master. Madam Yu had been holding an intent of killing since long ago, not only wanting to destroy all of the Wen-dogs but also in caution of Wen ZhuLiu. Thus, the energy flow was at more than maximum power when Wen ZhuLiu grabbed it without any difficulty!
Within the years of it being in use, Zidian had never met such an opponent. After it had been grabbed, Madam Yu paused for the slightest moment. Wang LingJiao used the chance to scramble out. She took out a cylinder of fire-light from her lapels and shook it a few times. A light shot out of the cylinder. Along with a sharp whistle, it rushed out of the wooden window and exploded in the sky outside. Then, she fumbled out a second one, a third one. Hair tangled, she mumbled, “Come… Come… Come here… Everyone, come here!”
Through the pain, Wei WuXian pushed Jiang Cheng, “Stop her from sending any more signals!”
Jiang Cheng let go of Wei WuXian and lunged in the direction of Wang LingJiao. Yet, at the same time, Wen ZhuLiu was closing in on Madam Yu. He looked as if he was about to knock her down. Jiang Cheng hurried, “Mom!”
He immediately gave up on Wang LingJiao and threw himself over. Wen ZhuLiu didn’t even turn his head as he struck, “Not even close!”
Jiang Cheng’s shoulder suffered the attack. Blood immediately burst from his mouth. Wang LingJiao had already let out all of the signal fire-lights. Sharp whistles and bright sparks filled the entire grey-blue sky.
Seeing that Jing Cheng was injured, Madam Yu roared. The light over Zidian grew in intensity, becoming almost white in color!
Wen ZhuLiu was blasted into the wall by Zidian’s sudden eruption. JinZhu and YinZhu pulled out two long, sizzling whips from their waists as well, and began to fight Wen ZhuLiu. The two maids had been close to Madam Yu ever since she was young. All of them were taught by the same person. Their combined attacks were by no means to be reckoned with. With the opportunity, Jiang Cheng and Wei WuXian, both still unable to move, were picked up by Madam Yu with each hand as she rushed out of the hall. Many disciples still surrounded the training field. Madam Yu commanded, “Get dressed and armed, now!”
With the two in her hands, she rushed onto the pier. The pier of Lotus Pier always had a few small boats docked in it, to be used by the Jiang Sect’s disciples for roaming within the water. Madam Yu tossed them onto the boat. She jumped into it herself as well. Holding Jiang Cheng’s hand, she helped him regain himself. Jiang Cheng had only coughed up a mouthful of blood. His injuries weren’t too severe. He asked, “Mom, what do we do?”
Madam Yu, “What do you mean what do we do?! Can’t you see yet? They came here prepared. Today’s fight couldn’t have been avoided. Soon afterwards there’ll be herds of those Wen-dogs arriving. Leave first!”
Wei WuXian, “Then what about Shijie? Shijie went to Meishan the day before yesterday. If she comes back…”
Madam Yu glowered, “Shut your mouth! It’s all because of you little…!”
Wei WuXian could only stay quiet. Madam Yu took off the Zidian ring that she wore on her right hand and put it onto Jiang Cheng’s right index finger. Jiang Cheng was shocked, “… Mom, why are you giving me Zidian?”
Madam Yu, “I’ve given it to you, so it’ll be yours from now on! Zidian has already recognized you as its master.”
Jiang Cheng was confused, “Mom, won’t you be leaving with us?”
Madam Yu stared at his face. Suddenly, she embraced him and kissed his hair a few times. With him in her arms, she murmured, “Good boy.”
She hugged him so tight that it seemed as if she wanted turn Jiang Cheng into a baby and stuff him back into her stomach, so that nobody could hurt him, nobody could tear them apart. Jiang Cheng had never been hugged by his mother like this, much less kissed. His head was buried in her chest but his eyes were wide open, not knowing what to do.
One hand holding him, Madam Yu grabbed Wei WuXian’s lapels with her other hand as though to strangle him to death. She spoke through clenched teeth, “… You damn little brat! I hate you! I hate you more than anything else! Look at what our sect has gone through for your sake!”
Wei WuXian’s chest heaved up and down. He said nothing. This time, it wasn’t that he held back his words or that he had unspoken comments, but that he really couldn’t say anything.
Jiang Cheng hurried to ask, “Mom, won’t you be leaving with us???”
Madam Yu let go at once. She pushed him onto Wei WuXian.
She leaped onto the dock. The boat rocked side to side amid the water of the river. Jiang Cheng finally understood. JinZhu, YinZhu, all of the disciples, and all of the treasure that YunmengJiang Sect had passed down from one generation to the next were still inside Lotus Pier, unable to be evacuated within a short period of time. After this, a grim battle would have to happen. As the mistress, Madam Yu couldn’t flee, yet she worried about her child. Perhaps selfish, she could only let these two escape first.
Knowing that there’d be immense danger after they parted, Jiang Cheng was more than scared. He stood up and tried to leave the boat as well, but currents suddenly shot out of Zidian. A rope of lighting tied the two tightly to the boat. They couldn’t move at all. Jiang Cheng shouted, “Mom, what are you doing?!”
Madam Yu, “Don’t make such a fuss. It’ll loosen up when you’re somewhere safe. If anyone attacks you on the journey, it’ll protect you as well. Don’t come back. Go to Meishan straight away and find your sister!”
After she finished, she turned to Wei WuXian and pointed at him, “Wei Ying! Listen to me! Protect Jiang Cheng, protect him even if you die, do you understand?!”
Wei WuXian, “Madam Yu!”
Madam Yu raged, “Did you hear me?! Don’t talk nonsense to me, I’m only asking you—did you hear me?!”
Wei WuXian couldn’t struggle out of Zidian. He could only nod his head. Jiang Cheng shouted, “Mom, Father isn’t back yet. If anything happens can’t we manage through it together first?!”
Hearing him mention Jiang FengMian, for a split second, Madam Yu’s eyes seemed to turn red.
Immediately, she cursed with a loud voice, “So what if he’s not coming back? Can’t I do anything without him?!”
After this, she cut off the rope that leashed the boat with her sword and kicked the side of the boat hard. The water was fast and the wind was heavy. Along with the kick, the boat drifted yards away at once. With a few spins, it sailed quickly yet steadily toward the center of the river. Jiang Cheng wailed, “Mom!”
He shouted for dozens of times. However, Madam Yu and Lotus Pier were farther and farther, smaller and smaller. After the boat was far into the distance, sword in hand, Madam Yu went back within the gates of Lotus Pier with a flash of her purple robes.
The two struggled as hard as they could. Zidian had almost sunk into their flesh, yet it still remained.
A mad roar rang from Jiang Cheng’s throat as he continued to struggle, “Why won’t it break?! Why won’t it break?! Break! Break!”
Wei WuXian had just been whipped over ten times by Zidian. His body was still hurting. He knew that they wouldn’t be able to struggle out of this and that all of their effort would go to waste. Remembering that Jiang Cheng was still injured, he spoke through the pain, “Jiang Cheng, calm down first. Facing the Core-Melting Hand, it’s not for sure that she’d lose. Back then, didn’t she hold Wen ZhuLiu back?”
Jiang Cheng roared, “How do you want me to calm down?! How could I calm down?! Even if Wen ZhuLiu is killed, that despicable woman has already sent out the signals. What if the Wen-dogs saw them and are leading people to lay siege on our sect?!”
Wei WuXian knew as well that there was no way for them to calm down. But, between the two, one of them had to have a clear head. Just as he was about to continue, his eyes suddenly lit up. He shouted, “Uncle Jiang! It’s Uncle Jiang coming back!”
As he had said, a larger boat sailed toward them over the river.
Jiang FengMian was standing at the head of the boat. Around a dozen disciples was also standing on the boat. He was staring in the direction of Lotus Pier, robes flapping in the wind. Jiang Cheng shouted, “Father! Father!”
Jiang FengMian saw them as well. He looked somewhat surprised. One of the disciples rowed the oar, and the boat approached. Jiang FengMian still didn’t know what had happened as he mused, “A-Cheng? A-Ying? What happened to you two?”
The boys at Lotus Pier often played strange games. Even lying in the water with faces covered in blood pretending to be floating corpses wasn’t out of the norm. Thus, Jiang FengMian couldn’t immediately decide if they were playing some new game or not. He didn’t pick up on the severity of the circumstances. Jiang Cheng, however, was so happy that he almost cried. He hurried to explain, “Father, Father let us go!”
Jiang FengMian, “This is your mom’s Zidian. Zidian knows its masters. I don’t think it’d let me…”
As he spoke, he touched Zidian with his hand. However, just as he came into contact with it, Zidian retracted obediently. It immediately turned into a ring and wrapped itself around one of his fingers.
Jiang FengMian froze at once.
Zidian was Yu ZiYuan’s best weapon. Yu ZiYuan’s intention was its most important command. Zidian could recognize multiple masters, but there was an order. Madam Yu was undoubtedly the primary master of Zidian. Her command was to tie Jiang Cheng up until he was safe, which was why even though Jiang Cheng was also its master, he couldn’t struggle out of its constraint.
Nobody knew when, but Jiang FengMian had been recognized as the secondary master of Zidian. In front of him, Zidian determined them to be safe, and thus it loosened.
But Madam Yu had never said that she let Zidian recognize Jiang FengMian as its master as well.
Jiang Cheng and Wei WuXian had finally broken apart. They collapsed to each side. Jiang FengMian asked, “What is going on? Why would you two be tied onto a boat by Zidian?”
As though he saw something that could save them, Jiang Cheng clutched him, “Today the Wen Sect’s people were at our sect. Mom had an argument with them and started fighting with the Core-Melting Hand! Mom might be at a disadvantage. Later, there might be even more enemies. Father, let’s go back and help her! Let’s go!”
Hearing this, all of the disciples looked shocked. Jiang FengMian asked, “The Core-Melting Hand?!”
Jiang Cheng, “Yes, Father! We…”
Before he could finish, a purple light flashed, and Jiang Cheng and Wei WuXian were tied up again. In the position that they had been, the two collapsed onto the smaller boat. Jiang Cheng’s face was blank, “… Father?!”
Jiang FengMian, “I’ll go back. You two leave. Don’t turn in any way. Don’t return to Lotus Pier. After you reach the shore, try to go to Meishan as soon as possible to find your sister and your grandmother.”
Wei WuXian, “Uncle Jiang!!!”
As the shock passed, Jiang Cheng kicked the side of the boat furiously. The boat kept on shaking. “Father let me go! Let me go!”
Jiang FengMian, “I will go back to find Third Lady.”
Jiang Cheng glowered at him, “We can go back and find her together, can’t we?!”
Jiang FengMian stared into his eyes. Suddenly, he reached out. Only after pausing in the air did he finally touch Jiang Cheng’s head, slowly, “A-Cheng, be well.”
Wei WuXian, “Uncle Jiang, if anything happens to you, he won’t be well.”
Jiang FengMian turned his eyes to him, “A-Ying, A-Cheng… you must look after him.”
He returned to the larger boat. The two boats brushed against each other before parting and drifting farther and farther away. Jiang Cheng shouted in despair, “Dad!!!”
The boat drifted down the current.
They didn’t know how long had passed before Zidian loosened. It became a silver ring around Jiang Cheng’s finger.
The two had been shouting for the whole ride. Their throats were already hoarse. After they had been unbound, they didn’t say anything and began to sail back. They didn’t have oars, so they paddled with their hands, against the flow of the river.
Madam Yu said that the lashes he had received wouldn’t heal in less than a month. However, right now, Wei WuXian felt that although where he had been whipped still burned and tingled, it didn’t affect his ability to move too much. With the determination of somebody on the verge of death, the two of them paddled as though their lives depended on it. Two hours later, using nothing but their hands, they finally returned to Lotus Pier.
It was already late into the night.
The gates of Lotus Pier were tightly shut. Outside, lights glowed brightly. Fragments of moonlight flowed along the crystalline water. Dozens of large lanterns in the shape of nine-petaled lotuses floated by the dock in silence.
Everything was the same as before. Yet, it was because of how everything was the same as before that it tormented the heart.
The two stopped when they arrived at the middle of the lake. Poised in the water, they felt their hearts thump loudly. Neither dared approach the dock and rush upshore to see what exactly was going on inside.
Tears swirled within Jiang Cheng’s eyes. Both his arms and his legs were shivering. A while later, Wei WuXian spoke, “… Let’s not enter from the gates right now.”
Jiang Cheng somehow managed to nod. Without making a noise, the two paddled the boat onto the other side of the lake. An old willow tree grew there. Its roots were buried inside the dirt of the shore, but its broad trunk grew sideways along the surface of the lake. Its branches dipped into the water. In the past, the boys of Lotus Pier often walked down the trunk of the willow tree all the way until its tip to sit there and fish.
After the two docked the boat behind the boughs of the willow, they went ashore under the cover of the branches and the darkness of the sky. Wei WuXian had always been used to flipping over walls. He tugged at Jiang Cheng and whispered, “This way.”
Jiang Cheng was both shocked and scared. He had almost no sense of direction as he walked against the wall behind Wei WuXian. After they had moved for a while, hiding themselves, they stealthily climbed up one of the walls. A row of beast heads lined the top of the wall, making it rather easy to peek inside. Back then, it was always the people outside who peeked at them. Now, they were the ones peeking inside.
Wei WuXian raised his head and looked within. His heart sank at once.
On the training field of Lotus Pier, rows and rows of people were standing.
All of them wore robes of the blazing sun. The flame patterns on their collars, lapels, and sleeves were in such a crimson shade that it hurt the eye more than blood did.
Aside from those who stood, there were also those who lay. All of the people collapsed on the ground had been moved to the northwest corner of the field, piled together without any order. One person stood with their back to the two of them. Head lowered, he seemed to be examining the people of the Jiang Sect. They didn’t know whether they were alive or dead.
With much fervor, Jiang Cheng was still searching with his eyes for the figures of Yu ZiYuan and Jiang FengMian. Wei WuXian, however, felt his eyes tear up at once.
Among the people, he saw many familiar silhouettes.
His throat was both dry and in pain. His temples felt as if they had been stricken by iron hammers, while his entire body was cold. He didn’t dare think about Jiang FengMian and Yu ZiYuan any longer. Just as he was about to take a closer look at whether or not the thin boy lying on top was his youngest shidi or not, the person standing at the northwestern corner with his back to them seemed to have picked up on something and turned around.
Wei WuXian immediately lowered his head along with Jiang Cheng’s.
Although he ducked in time, he still saw what the person looked like.
It was a boy about the same age as them. He had a slender physique and delicate features, though his pale complexion contrasted against his deep-black eyes. Although he was wearing the sun-and-flames robes, he didn’t have that imposing of a demeanor. He seemed a bit too gentle. Looking at in which rank his sun patterns placed him, he was probably a young master of the Wen Sect.
A-Ning? 😭
man see, i knew that regardless of all else Jiang FengMian still loved his son. this chapter was very depressing. i know Yu ZiYuan’s harsh personality can’t be helped but i really felt bad for Wei Ying. what makes it even worse is how understanding and tough he is in the face of her terrible treatment.
i know what’s to come is nothing but sorrow and there’s no changing it since these are flashbacks, but man how i wished that Jiang Cheng’s parents were on better terms. they really don’t seem like they hate each other. maybe they’re just tired from the endless arguing, but conaidering they do it all the time, you’d think they would have fell apart. yet they seemed just fine. there’s just that frustration i am left with that they didn’t really get to reach each other properly and just misunderstood their entire married life as nothing but forced. i am sure they could have worked out things.
aaaaaah don’t mind me i just can’t with a couple with so much potential like this! idk how to describe my feelings rn.
also quick note- i absolutely love the thing in Wei Ying where he encourages Jiang Cheng to be sect leader. I really do think that he is more reserved and hard working and whatnot and i recognize all of his hardships and efforts, but i find his jealousy really petty. i know it stems from his father’s abnormal gentleness towards someome who’s not even his son and all the weird stuff other people say and yada yada yada, but he just seems like he gives up easily. and that’s coming from someone who tries too hard and always ends up with no results. i really get Jiang Cheng who’s always in second. but the way he acts is really 😒
yknow?
man.
and there’s how he completely turned against Wei Ying at the first opportunity! i mean they grew up together as brothersssss is that the extent of his trust and faith in Ying?? ughhhhhh come on even someone like Lan Zhan is going to such lengths to protect him and aid him in whatever ordeal he gets into. Jiang Cheng just keeps on chastising him.
forgive my long rant
thank you so much for your efforts translating this, ksan! i really enjoy it thoroughly!
When Weiying used Wen Cao as a hostage and pointed the sword on his neck. They should’ve known Wen Cao wouldn’t let it go and be forgotten.
He may really have interest in taking the Lotus Pierre but it probably wouldn’t be this sudden. None of them were prepared.
Well said. He is partly at fault — accelerated the invasion and ensured the destruction of the Jiang Sect. Lord and Lady Jiang died unnecessarily, and no child wants their parents sacrificed like that for the transgression of a sibling.
yeah. but if i were in WX position i’d do the same. Let’s not forget that Wen Chao obviously see them as meat shield from cave even planning to slaughter them all. He initially wanted MianMian as first blood bait but he couldn’t care less to command to kill them all when LZ and JX stood up for MM. WX had to fightback or defend by making WC hostage to stop the command that will kill them all.
Let’s put it in another scenario and example: An adopted kid was being threatened to be killed if kid shouts or reports the offender/rapist/someone forcing them to have s e x and/or about to be raped. If the kid didn’t fight back or let rape happen without reporting it to anyone. The kid gets to stay at home, no conflict. right? Yo, that’s victim blaming mindset and favoring the offender just because not wanting the future consequences even at present the victim is already at gunpoint for their life. Even for example you get robbed at gunpoint, you can let the material go but most likely -if possible- no, you’d still try want to fight back regardless of consequences.
It honestly hurt that y’all blaming WX as if he didn’t think of the consequences. He was trying not to fight back. Just because it was shown that JC was stopping him back then doesn’t mean he doesn’t have control or know the consequences. It was that certain point that even JC didn’t or can no longer stop WX bec they’re already being attacked by Wen Chao’s men and order to be killed for so called “disobedience.”
Wow Madam Yu. Just, WOW!!
You couldn’t even let go of your hatred for WY even when you knew you’d never see them again?? Even at a moment like this, saying goodbye to your son, you still had enough presence of mind to discriminate between the two.
Wow!! Such a loving mother, showing love to her only son, but did you really NEED to proclaim your hatred towards WWX even when you knew that he’s the only one capable of protecting your son. I have two word for you: Selfish and Shameless. You didn’t even hesitate to ask WY to protect your son even if he had to exchange his own life to do so. WWX would’ve done it regardless of you asking. Yes you want your child to be safe, all mother does, but how shameless are you to abuse a person just moments before and then tell them to even sacrifice their own life for YOUR son.
You knew for sure that WY would do it even without you asking and you used that against him. You even told him that it’s his fault, although it wasn’t. You don’t care about WY in the very least, everyone knows that. You abused him all his life and nearly killed him moments prior. But can you atleast show some humanity and not ask him to sacrifice his own life, in his face??!! Even if you raise a rabid dog for sometime, you atleast develop some feelings of affection for them. But in your eyes WWX was worse than a wild animal, and he had been with you since just a child. He was just a human shield for your to protect your son.
Even though you were so abusive towards WWX, he always held you in high regards and respected you so much. All he needed desperately was a mother. You could have been this mother, if only you didn’t listen to false rumours and if only you could let go of your hatred towards his mother. Yes, you are absolutely justified to hate WY’s mother, but what did the child ever do to you?? Was he responsible for your husband’s actions?? Seeing your character, I would completely support your husband if he chose Changse Sanren over you. You’re an absolutely VILE creature.
WWX was just a child!! He didn’t understand all the intricacies of your married life and he wasn’t at fault for anything. All he wanted was a mother, a family. That’s it. I guess it was a lot for a child to ask. I mean, how dare he right??
You poise yourself in such a way that you come off as a proud and dignified lady. But in reality, you’re just an egotistical, jealous and petty woman. Who took out her anger and jealousy on an innocent child because she couldn’t compete with his mother in character and was forced to marry someone who couldn’t love a person like her, no matter how hard he tried.
What a loving mother you are. So loving that I pray that not even my worse enemy has you as their mother. Even if they are unlucky enough, I pray that they become motherless at an age so young that they do not have to remember a mother like you.
The job of a mother is to protect her children. I cannot fault you for choosing to protect your child. Infact, I applaud you for that. But is the children birthed by you only worth protection and not the children birthed by others?? After all, children are children. How could you be so loving towards one while gladly send the other to his death or use him for your own gains and then abuse him?? Do you have even an ounce of humanity in you??!!
The personality of WWX’s mother was never revealed in detail. It can only be said that she was a better fit romantically for JFM, not that she was any more moral than Madame Yu. The Jiangs still did WWX a favor adopting him and allowing him to be Head Disciple without hindering his progress over their own son. They never had an obligation to do any of this, and he repaid them ahem, “handsomely.”
I doubt Madam Yu did any of that though, and if it was up to her, she probably would have left Wei Ying on the streets. Also, Wei Ying is literally not to blame for the Wens attacking, and Jiang Cheng pretty much acknowledges that they would have attacked at some point anyway.
Madame Yu trains all the disciples (not JFM) implying that she holds the real power in the household and has a say over who gets to stay with the sect and who doesn’t. Still, she was never obligated to adopt WWX so raising him is a favor. If WWX did not give the Wens an excuse to attack the Jiang sect, then the Jiangs would have more time to regroup and make alliance against the Wens. But because he decided to galvanize Wen Chao first, they attacked the Jiangs first. The Jiang parents died unnecessarily.
Even if madame yu was the mistress of lotus pier and her authority is over everyone else but not JFM. If JFM decided to raise WWX she probably can’t go against it for the reason that her husband had equal power and authority as her and atleast for the sake of her love for her husband(she definitely loved JFM from what i see). And imo she started to go against that ignorant jiao only when she realized that she is treating her(madam yu) as someone under her and had intentions to continue to do by establishing supervision office it hurt her pride and was enraged by the fact that she dared to ask to discipline her own son just like she asked to discipline her adopted son WWX and her temper got out of control when wen zhuliu hurt jiang cheng…and absolutely not for only the sake of not wanting to cutting WWX’s arm.. And i feel like she didn’t want to do it also for the reason how her husband cherished wwx(even if she say as if she doesn’t have concern about JFM she absolutely care about him and thus probably doesn’t want to disappoint him just because of such a whore who was even worse than wwx in her eyes). so i really don’t think she deserves to ask WWX for a payback for raising him…😑
Waw… Blaming WWX for what he do right.. Well done.. 🙂 So you said that it will do any good if you just sit still and see someone got abuse? What he do is right.. All of this aint his fault.. It is wen dog fault they are crazy…
Question: if ur husband forced u to raise and love the possible bastard son of him and his ex, meanwhile he also shows you no intimacy and only married you because he had to on orders by his parents… then he also clearly loves this possible bastard son more than your son… all of this… for 15-17 yrs… would you be able to do it? Would u be able to love the kid? Forced to raise, forced to love, forced to mother, and unable to break free in divorce because of societal and cultural demands? ALSO possibly LOATHING urself for actually falling in love with a man who possibly doesn’t love you? … she’s a terrible step mom and an insecure woman… but she never wanted to be one in the first place it was all FORCED onto her.
So her not wanting to raise WWX (which is understandable) justifies her being a bitch towards him and sometimes verbally abusing her OWN CHILD? It’s clear that WWX was more talented than JC, but constantly comparing them IS NOT the way to encourage growth. It’d do more harm than good. Hell, my mom did that with my siblings and I and we’re not criminals or anything, but it damaged our relationship. It’s one of the things I can’t stand my mother for doing. And her situation wasn’t the same as Madam Yu’s, but there were some similarities.
he’s not the bastard son of his ex to begin with he’s just the son of the girl he used to like no need to be such an edgelord
the hag didn’t even treat her own son as a human, she’s pressed cuz she was entitled to a perfect husband a perfect son a perfect daughter a perfect life and instead of accepting them as they were she treated them all like scum, that sacrifice was the least she could do for her son after everything she put them all through but in the end she poisoned JC’s mind and heart so much that she ended up destroying her whole family and turning him into a psycho and a loser with inferiority complex
OMG MY FAVE CHARACTER IS GONNA GET INTRODUCED EVERYBODY PIPE DOWN.
I still hate Madam Yu for treating Wei Ying like that.
It’s still sad. But you see jiang fengimian’s favourism to Wei ying is the reason she is like that. Jiang cheng also deserve his father’s love. She loved her husband so much, so she’s a bit insecure about their relationship.
I mean, she’s blatantly abusive to Wei Ying, both emotionally and physically, so I don’t think insecurities are any excuse for that. Also, a lot of the supposed mistreatment that Fengmian is complicit in comes directly from her mouth? She seems to twist every situation to make it look that way. Jiang Fengmian was telling Wei Ying to protect Jiang Cheng in this chapter, not the other way around.
preachhh!!
I’ve already watched the drama, donghua and read the manhua but reading this is when I realized some things.
In this story, Madam Yu and Fengmian never displayed any proper husband and wife attitudes towards each other. But, I think Fengmian just realized that his wife deeply cares for him after the Zidian recognizes him as one of its masters. Madam Yu never said anything about this, but clearly wanted him to have something she truly treasures.
Also, my theory is that when Zidian finally loosened its hold to them is when its original master, Madam Yu died. It makes sense to me since they’re still not too far away and was able to get back within the night to Lotus Pier but it’s only my theory and I just want to add an extra pinch of hurt to myself lol
Ppl saying that YZY hates WWX may want to consider the fact that she promoted him to Head Disciple of Jiang sect over her own son and never actually kicked him back out into the street. YZY is mad at him for playing god and giving the Wens an excuse and an opportunity to attack the Jiangs before they could have a chance to join forces with others. WWX is a good person, but he doesn’t behave in a way that befits his position and makes enemies very easily, which backfires on his family. He does what he thinks is right at the moment, not necessarily in the long run. With little foresight, tact, and political acumen in dangerous scenarios.
That’s why he is the Untamed.
She promoted him to head disciple bcoz she have no choice he is the son of a well known cultivator and highly talented himself. He couldn’t be downgraded.
She promoted him because it’s what he deserves and his place in the household is to defend her son, who is the heir of the sect. Not because she had no choice. The Head Disciple is the right hand man of the sect leader, which her son will be. But does he make always decisions in the best interests of the sect? No. That’s why she thinks he failed his job.
I just wanna tell u onething, WWX is the head disciple bc of his age. He is the oldest disciple of the Jang clan. Not bc his talent or something else. In ancient China, disciples ranked by the age or the timeline when they are jion the clan not by their competence. Therefore, the sentense of U “YZY promoted him to head disciple” is not making any sense. I saw U mentioned this a lot to persuade other people that YZY is not hate WWX. Its really not making any sense. Hope U see my comment and stop say this nonesense. It’s kinda annoy
Agreed, 100%. I absolutely adore this novel because of just how human each of the characters are. They all make mistakes, and even though some of them have morals that are good, it shows how even those with the best of morals can fail. I think this is one of my favorite novels. If I could erase my memory of it to read it again, I would
I actually do 😅 I’m favoured in that part. I would forget the storyline in some months and I’ll back to read it again lol. Poor memory!!
Honestly, WWX is a jerk.
He is careless, selfish, and arrogant.
He has a god complex and it puts others in danger.
The massacres can’t be blamed on him, though.
The Wen sect would just search for any excuse to attack any sect, especially the bigger, well known, respected sects.
WWX was simply an easy target.
They already attacked the Lan clan, and if they hadn’t gone for the Jiang clan, they probably would’ve gone for the Jin clan next, using bad behaviour as an excuse, or the Nie clan, using NHS as an excuse.
I can’t believe u called Wei ying selfish like dude is the most selfless person I’ve seen !! Maybe I’m being biased or whatever but I absolutely cannot tolerate anyone saying any unnecessary things about my baby
Can you elaborate on Wei Wuxian’s God complex please?
Careless, sure. Arrogant, maybe. Particularly when he was younger, with the idea in his head of highly skilled he was in cultivation.
But selfish…. my dude, no.
Selfish? I’m sorry but would a selfish person stay behind and act as bait? Would a selfish person decline the credit of killing a fake deity? Would a selfish person decided ‘fuck it, cut off my hand if it would help settle the clan disputes’? Wei Ying is careless and often doesn’t think about what he says and does, but he is certainly NOT selfish
He needed someone who cared not a promotion to Head disciple… who cares if you’re promoted but then end up being treated like **it. The two things don’t cancel each other, nor have anything to do with each other. She did it because she had no option not because she wanted to. I honestly do not get people who justify her abuse towards WWX… so what if she was jealous?? Is that suddenly a good excuse for abuse?!! I admire WWX he has always done his best with no other hidden intentions, he was always surrounded with people greedy for power though. THOSE people killed his family not him!! He was in their way so they did everything to destroy him.
So I’d like to point out that criticizing a main character and calling out his flaws is NOT ABUSE, even though it’s not what we want to hear. When you get older you will understand this. Just because he’s the main character doesn’t mean that he is untouchable, beyond reproach, or above the consequences of his actions. Promoting someone to such a high position is a declaration of confidence in their abilities. She could have just promoted her own son instead which adheres to tradition, but didn’t. Even though he’s not her son she has appraised his talents fairly enough to promote him, but feels that he has failed some of his duties. Note that Madame Yu also criticizes JC often because she wants him to
grow up to be an effective and powerful sect leader. She criticizes WY often
because she wants him to be a better Head Disciple, who knows how to navigate
diplomatic scenarios in ways that do not backfire on the Jiang Sect.
Chances are in the real world, most stepmoms would not tolerate him as much as YZY does, even though y’all think she’s loud and annoying. He would probably be sent back to an orphanage.
You contradict yourself continually. You already said above the the head disciple is is like a handy man who is there to protect the heir which is her son, but yet you are saying that she could’ve promoted her son instead. The way I see it. WWX was in fact promoted for his ability, but it’s his ability that got him hated but madam because it out shine her son’s. I understand that in those it was every man for themselves and clan, which way it seem that WWX was going against what he should be doing. But anime with moral and selflessness can see that he did things not for credit but for the love of others. Abuse of a child in anyway is wrong regardless of the reasons. #pleasedontlookafterotherschildren#
The Head Disciple is NOT a handyman, that is your misconception. It is a position given to the FIRST LEGITIMATE SON/HEIR of the sect before he is promoted to sect leader. After that, his brother will take over. So by tradition, JC would have been the head disciple first before becoming sect leader, but WY was promoted first instead because he was MORE TALENTED and so that he could protect JC. JC would be promoted STRAIGHT TO sect leader. These two things are NOT CONTRADICTORY. YZY just subverted an existing tradition because she wants to set the two up to be Yunmeng Shuangjie, and if she really hated WY and thought that he would threaten her son’s power, SHE WOULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT. She could have just kicked him out. Rather, it was WY who did not live up to his position, and she is thus angry.
Again, I’d like to clarify that frustration, yelling and arguing does not always constitute abuse. Abuse is oftentimes more like physical and emotional NEGLECT and CHILD FAVORITISM. Who does this the most often? Jiang Fengmian.
What are you trying to say?
I’m gonna tell you smth
No. ❤️😌
Reading this part, I’ve always wandered how Lan Wanji felt not knowing if Wei Ying died with his sect or not.
I have never actually thought of that… I’m gonna go cry now
This chapter was heartbreaking, but now i’m kinda angry at JC. How can he blame WWX for his parents deaths??? I try to be as understanding as i can towards Jiang cheng but he makes it really difficult sometimes.
This chapter was really sad but also this made me laugh:
“The boys at Lotus Pier often played strange games. Even lying in the water with faces covered in blood pretending to be floating corpses wasn’t out of the norm.”
i just wanna say. i live this novel. i dont read many novels but i was really attracted to this story and the characters and the plot ofcourse. although i found this through the manhwa this is so good.
I really want to know what kind of relation does WenZhuliu and Madam Yu has, I don’t know if that was mentioned in the novel
yeah it got me curious too. they seem to be friend or teammate/groupmate back in the days from the way they reacted… hmm…
Maybe he had crush on her since he wouldn’t let jiaojiao insult her corpse🤷🏻♀️
Can everyone stop blaming Wei Ying please? He was like 17? He saw somebody in trouble and tried to help, he couldn’t have known they’d react so soon or be this brutal. In the spur of a moment, you can’t expect everyone to think of the consequences, especially somebody as just and selfless as Wei Ying. I feel horrible for the parents and the sect but y’all think Madame Yu would’ve tolerated her bs about making lotus pier their provincial residence? The fight was almost inevitable. What happened was horrible but you can’t blame the victim for ‘provoking’ an oppressor already on the offence. Anything could’ve provoked them, they would’ve made up any reason to siege lotus pier whenever they wanted. They weren’t here to negotiate anyway so blame WY is just ‘blame the victim’ mentality
true i agree with you! especially when you said “you can’t blame the victim for ‘provoking’ an oppressor already on the offence” and “they would’ve made up any reason to siege lotus pier whenever they wanted. They weren’t here to negotiate anyway” so it really hurts when they were blaming Wei Ying or treated him like a punching sandbag for something they also knew to be this inevitable.
And this has been already something Wen Chao wanting to do against Yunmeng or Lotus Pier to show his power as part of Wen clan due to his personal envy/bitterness against Wei Ying imho. It’s also shown in the cave how he abuses his power against other contestants who won from archery competition against him.
Ok I know what happens because I’ve seen it several times, but I still can’t help but crying.
Its about to get depressing im not ready! 😭😭😭
A new low for madam Yu:( If you want to blame someone, blame yourself for this clusterfuck of a situation. Just saying she could have handled things smarter, faster and definitely quieter instead of just lashing out. Gotta respect MY for his ability to turn even the biggest clusterfuck in his favour😁
In any case, it seemed like a lot of time passed since the cave so why weren’t they already preparing for backlash and organizing resistance? Were they just hoping for WC to let it go? Seems silly. I honestly don’t understand too well why the other sects are letting the wen sect treat them in such a way?!
By the way, I think what WY did in the cave was actually smart. WC already ordered to kill JZX and LZ. Do you really think he wouldn’t kill the rest of them? Come on, he obviously couldn’t leave any witnesses. These were future sect leaders after all, so they would be avenged… Thank you for translating 🌺
i still remember how emotional this scene was and the continuation in the donghua and the series, now im so scared for the next chap damn i need tissues 😭😭😭😭
No one wiped wei ying’s tears and told him to take care of himself he’s scared too you know 🙁
Sorry but hate madam you..I fell sorry for wie yiing😭💔💔
Wei WuXian… This is so unfair! Can anyone just f*cking beat up that Wen-b*tch?!
This is beyond horrible, I watched the drama and this was like rubbing salt to and already stinging wound, I cannot even imagine the life of people who might have gone through simillar situation in reality
As a human I can agree with all the characters and If I was in their position, I would definitely do the things they did or react the way they did. Call it jain Chan, madam yu or Wei Ying.
People who blame WWX in this chapter need to have their moral checked… It is clear wen dog’s fault, they are crazy, have no mercy and just bunch of abuser… First at the cave, wen dog want to kill em.. Then d you think it is better if you just stand still and do nothing watching someone got killed? Become a plaything? Damn it.. What WWX do is a right thing.. And JFM and YZY they didnt die for nothing! They died for their sect, they died for their son, they died so they will never become one of the wen dog… Sooner it will difinetly happen like what happen to LZ’s sect.. The problem is wen dog not what WWX have done!
I tear up every time when I watch this scene either from the live version or the donghuas, I can feel JC’s pain, being someone who loves my own parents too.
WEN NING??? MY BABY?? MY ANGEL??? COME HERE LET ME HUG YOU
starting from this part..it wasn’t easy to continue…because to me, it’s the beginning of the most difficult times in Wei Ying’s life….And it’s true that Wei Ying embodies the Jiang sect motto of attaining the impossible….