Chapter 102: Hatred—Part Five
Although he was pierced right through the chest, Jiang Cheng wasn’t so weak as to have died right then. It just wasn’t the best for him to move or conjure up his spiritual powers. He didn’t like it when others tried to help him, turning to Jin Ling he said, “Fuck off.”
Jin Ling knew Jiang Cheng was still mad at him for running around. He felt guilty and didn’t dare defend himself. The dog’s barks came from afar, followed by a sudden wail. Jin Ling shuddered as he remembered what Jin GuangYao said, shouting, “Fairy, run! They’re gonna kill you!”
Soon, Su She rushed through the storm, furious. Jin GuangYao, “You didn’t kill it?”
Su She’s expression darkened, “I couldn’t. Can’t believe the dog’s so spineless. It’s wild when somebody’s there to help it, but as soon as it’s at a disadvantage, it runs away faster than anyone!”
Jin GuangYao shook his head, “It might lead someone else over. We should finish things quickly here.”
Su She, “Those good-for-nothings! I’ll go make them hurry.”
Jin Ling, on the other hand, let out a sigh of relief. Seeing Jiang Cheng sit on the ground, still dark-faced, he turned to Lan WangJi after some hesitation, “HanGuang-Jun, are there any more sitting mats?”
The four mats that they’d been sitting on were all gathered by Lan WangJi. However, there were only four within the temple. After some silence, Lan WangJi stood up and pushed over the one he’d been sitting on.
Jin Ling hurried, “Thank you! It’s fine. I’ll just give him mine…”
Lan WangJi, “There is no need.”
As soon as he finished, he sat down beside Wei WuXian. Even as the two sat so seriously on the same sitting mat, they didn’t seem too cramped. Now that the mat was handed over already, Jin Ling scratched his head before dragging Jiang Cheng over. Jiang Cheng first pressed onto an acupoint at his chest, stopping the blood flow. After he sat down, he looked up and glanced over at Wei WuXian and Lan WangJi. He soon looked down again. His face was gloomy, disclosing nothing of what he was thinking.
Right at this point, an ecstatic cry came from behind the palace, “Sect Leader! We got it! A corner is out already!”
Jin GuangYao’s expression relaxed quite somewhat. He quickly walked back behind the palace, “Press on! Please be careful. There’s not much time left.”
Over a dozen streaks of lightning twisted their way across the edge of the sky. They were soon followed by a series of roaring thunder. Over there, Wei WuXian and Lan WangJi sat together while Jiang Cheng sat at the side. Jin Ling dragged his own mat over as well. Amid the pounding of the rain, there was a long while of dead, awkward silence. Nobody spoke up.
But for some reason, Jin Ling seemed as if he really wanted to talk to them. After some glancing around, he suddenly began, “Uncle, good thing you stopped that guqin string earlier on, or else things would be pretty bad.”
Jiang Cheng’s face darkened, “You can shut up!”
If not for him leaving Jin GuangYao with a chance for a sneak attack due to his own unstable emotions, he wouldn’t have landed in the enemy’s hands either. On top of that, in reality, Wei WuXian and Lan WangJi could’ve completely dodged the attack on their own. Even though, right now, Lan WangJi had no spiritual powers and Wei WuXian’s were low to begin with, their skills were still there. They couldn’t attack, but they were still able to dodge. Clumsily, Jin Ling was trying to speak for his uncle, yet the deliberation made the situation even more awkward.
After being scolded, Jin Ling stopped talking, embarrassed. Jiang Cheng sealed his lips together and didn’t speak again.
Wei WuXian didn’t say anything either. In the past, he’d definitely laugh at Jiang Cheng for being so easily-provoked that he gave the opponent an opportunity. But now, recalling what Jin GuangYao said, he understood everything.
Jiang Cheng knew the truth already.
Lan WangJi stroked Wei WuXian’s back a few more times. Wei WuXian looked up. Lan WangJi didn’t seem at all surprised. His eyes were almost gentle. Wei WuXian felt his heart skip a beat. He couldn’t help but whisper, “… You knew?”
Lan WangJi nodded slowly.
Wei WuXian let out a light breath, “… Wen Ning.”
Wen Ning had originally been keeping Suibian, but now it was in Jiang Cheng’s hands. And on their way back from Lotus Pier, Wen Ning said nothing of such a matter.
Wei WuXian, “When did he say it?”
Lan WangJi, “While you were unconscious.”
Wei WuXian, “This was how we left Lotus Pier?!”
If not that Wen Ning hadn’t found them yet, Wei WuXian would definitely have begun glaring at him already.
Lan WangJi, “He always felt sorry for you.”
Wei WuXian’s tone was tinged with anger, “… I told him so many times not to say it!”
Out of the blue, Jiang Cheng spoke up, “Not to do what?”
Wei WuXian paused in surprise, turning to him along with Lan WangJi. Jiang Cheng covered his wound with one hand, his voice chilly, “Wei WuXian, you’re such a great, selfless person. You did the best things possible, and you swallowed all the suffering and didn’t let anyone know. What a touching story. I should kneel down and cry in gratitude, shouldn’t I?”
Hearing the mocking tone that lacked any courtesy, Lan WangJi’s face grew cold. Jin Ling saw the displeased expression and immediately stood in front of Jiang Cheng, scared that Lan WangJi would kill him with one strike, “Uncle!”
Wei WuXian’s expression worsened as well. He never expected Jiang Cheng to make up with him after he found out the truth, but he didn’t think his tone would be as unkind as ever, either. With a moment of silence, he replied, voice muffled, “I never asked you to thank me.”
Jiang Cheng let out a hah, “Of course. Giving without expecting anything in return. What a high level. Unlike me, of course. So that’s why my father always said you were the one who truly understood the Jiang Sect’s motto and did things the Jiang way, back when he was alive.”
Wei WuXian couldn’t keep on listening any longer, interrupting him, “Enough.”
Jiang Cheng’s voice harshened, “What do you mean, enough? It’s enough as long as you say so? You know everything! You’re better than me at everything! Whether it be talent or cultivation or spirituality or personality, you guys knew everything while I was much lower—then what am I?!?!”
He suddenly reached out, as if to seize Wei WuXian’s collar. Lan WangJi grabbed Wei WuXian’s shoulder with one hand, letting Wei WuXian stand behind him, and with his other hand he forcefully pushed away Jiang Cheng’s hand. Rage could be seen hidden within his eyes. Although his push held no spiritual energy, it was quite powerful in terms of strength. The wound at Jiang Cheng’s chest ripped apart again. Blood surged.
Jin Ling cried, “Uncle, your wound! HanGuang-Jun, spare some mercy!”
However, Lan WangJi’s voice was cold, “Jiang WanYin, spare some virtue!”
Lan XiChen took off his outer robe and lay it over the shivering Nie HuaiSang, “Sect Leader Jiang, please do not be so agitated. Your injury will worsen.”
Jiang Cheng shoved Jin Ling, who’d been holding him up helplessly, out of the way. Even though he was losing blood, it rushed to his head unceasingly. His face switched between white and red, “Why? Wei WuXian, just fucking why?”
Behind Lan WangJi, Wei WuXian replied stiffly, “Why what?”
Jiang Cheng, “Just how much did we the Jiang Sect give you? I’m supposed to be his son, I’m supposed to be the heir of the YunmengJiang Sect, yet all these years I’ve been outdone by you at every single thing. You paid for your bringing-up with life! The lives of my dad, my mom, my sister, and Jin ZiXuan! Because of you, all that’s left is a parentless Jin Ling!”
Jin Ling trembled. His shoulders sunk, and his face sagged as well. Wei WuXian moved his lips, but he couldn’t say anything. Lan WangJi turned around to hold his hand.
On the other hand, Jiang Cheng refused to give up, shouting, “Wei WuXian, who was the one who broke his promise and betrayed the Jiang Sect first? Tell me. That I’d be the sect leader and you’d be my subordinate, that you’d help me your whole life, that so long as the GusuLan Sect had its Two Jades, the YunmengJiang Sect would have its Two Prides, that you’d never betray me or betray the Jiang Sect—who was the one that said these?! I’m asking you—who was the one that said all these?! Did you eat all your fucking words?!”
He got more agitated as he ranted on, “And in the end? You go and protect outsiders, haha! The Wen Sect’s people, even. How much of their rice did you eat?! Defecting with such resolution! What did you take our sect to be?! You did all the best things, yet every time you do the worst ones, it’s involuntary! Forced! With some unspeakable grievances! Grievances?! You told me nothing, you played me for a fool!!!
“Just how much do you owe the Jiang Sect? Am I not supposed to hate you? Can I not hate you?! Why is it that now it’s like I’m supposed to have wronged you?! Why do I have to feel like I’m a fucking clown all these years?! What am I? Do I deserve to be blinded by all your dazzling splendor?! Am I not supposed to hate you?!”
Lan WangJi shot up. With panic, Jin Ling stood in front of Jiang Cheng, “HanGuang-Jun! My uncle’s hurt…”
Jiang Cheng slapped him onto the ground, “Let him come! Am I scared of him?!”
But after the slap, Jin Ling froze. Not only him, Wei WuXian, Lan WangJi, and Lan XiChen all stopped moving.
Jiang Cheng was crying. Tears poured from his eyes as he forced through his teeth, “… Why… Why didn’t you tell me?!”
Jiang Cheng clenched his fist, like he wanted to hit someone, like he wanted to hit himself. In the end, he still slammed it onto the ground. He should’ve been able to loathe Wei WuXian without a care. But right now, the golden core revolving within him took away all that confidence.
Wei WuXian didn’t know what to say.
In the beginning, it was precisely because he didn’t want to see such a Jiang Cheng that he decided not to tell him.
He remembered every single thing he promised Jiang FengMian and Madam Yu—to help and take care of Jiang Cheng. If someone as unhealthily competitive as him found out about this, he’d be dispirited his whole life, too tortured to face himself. There’d always be something he could never overcome, reminding him that he could only reach where he was because of another’s sacrifice. It wasn’t at all his cultivation and his achievement. No matter if he won or lost, he’d long since lost the right to compete.
Afterwards, it was because Jin ZiXuan and Jiang YanLi died for him that he had no face to let others know. To tell Jiang Cheng after what happened then would be like shirking responsibility, hurrying to demonstrate that he’d contributed as well. It’d be like telling Jiang Cheng, don’t hate me, look I’ve contributed to the YunmengJiang Sect too.
Jiang Cheng cried soundlessly, but tears had already streaked across his face. To cry in such an unsightly way in front of others was almost impossible for him in the past. But every single moment that passed from now on, as long as the golden core remained in his body, as long as it could still revolve, he’d forever remember this feeling.
He choked, “… You said I’d be the sect leader and you’d be my subordinate, you said you’d help me your whole life, you said you’d never betray the YunmengJiang Sect… You said so yourself.”
“…” After a moment of silence, Wei WuXian replied, “I’m sorry. I broke my promise.”
Jiang Cheng shook his head, burying his face deep into his palms. A second later, he suddenly burst out with a laugh. His muffled voice mocked, “It’s such a time already, and I still need you to say sorry to me. What a fragile person I am.”
I can’t really understand.. i read this how many times but why i can’t understand JC.. i only understand that WWX core is with him.. it means that WWX didn’t broke his promise because his golden core is still assisting at him everytime.. WWX core is with JC it means WWX is still helping him.. he never know WWX at all cause he never see the pain and sacrifices that WWX made.. hate him? Wow what on earth are you JC? Your jealous at him to the point you want him out of his way so you will be the one will rise and praise by others.. try to summarize some of JC speech you will understand what i mean..
For some reason I always think that JC realy does love WWX a lot……
And I can understand him……his anger came from loneliness ,and the sense of abandonment and unconscious dependence he feels for WWX. and I think he is jeoleos of LWJ cause WWX is so close to him.
It’s not about promises. It’s about their brotherly love. He still misses wei Wuxiang.. If at that time Wei Wuxiang didn’t protect the Wen dogs, then the two brothers would be together and their sister would be still alive. After all there is no one beside JC.. He’s all alone. And again he has to carry the burden of the golden core thing. He is pathetic..
It doesn’t have to be this way. JC could also side with Wei Ying for this also. And there’s nothing wrong with Wei Ying protecting the innocent Wen’s, but its wrong for JC to turn his back on WQ and WN when he knew that they saved him once.
And you’re calling those innocent Wen’s, “Wen Dogs “??? Seriously?!
Their brotherhood is beyond all of us. I do believe JC treasures WWX a lot and wanted him to stay by his side, just as WWX has promised him back then. Even with his competitive and violent nature inherited from his mother, he really did care and love WWX a lot, like a real family. The feeling of hating and loving someone both at the same time, I think JC was indeed fragile to not handle it on his own. Not to mention, he kept all of these to his own. Remember during the days WWX started on his demonic path, he always asked him to come back with him. It is because WWX is his brother, a forever companion and family whom he trusted and treasured but would not openly admit or show. When WWX chose the Wen sect people over him, I think that’s the time JC really did feel betrayed and unfairly treated, cause he believed WWX would stay with him forever as promised. This unsolved and unspoken feeling became bigger and bigger that he really hated WWX to the extent that he did not know exactly what to do when facing him other than openly hate him. Behind all the hate, there was pain, care, and longing as a family member.
I think Jiang Cheng isn’t talking about how he is jealous. Wei Wuxian indirectly lead to the deaths of his parents and sister, and he more or less killed Jin Zixuan with his own hands. He left Jiang Cheng all alone, so doesn’t Jiang Cheng have the right to hate him. He did. But after finding out about his golden core, he can’t hate WWX anymore. WWX did break his promise, it wasn’t the core that JC wanted, he wanted a brother, a companion. WWX left Yunmeng Jiang to help the Wens, though it wasn’t the wrong move, it still broke a childhood promise. JC trusted WWX , no matter what he did, so when he left, he was obviously hurt.
JC’s feelings are human, and though he never knew about the sacrifices WWX made, it was because WWX didn’t treat them like sacrifices. WWX never thought of them as sacrifices, because he’s that kind of person. Also, JC wasn’t jealous of how much attention WWX got, but he felt inferior, especially since he is supposed to be the sect leader. Sibling rivalry is a massive problem, especially if one sibling is clearly ‘ better’ and JFM showed his clear favoritism towards WWX, hurting JC’s feelings. JC doesn’t want praise, in this scene, he’s just hurt, confused and frustrated.
I don’t see how people can still hate JC after all of this, because these are his feelings, and they are so, so valid. Being hit by feelings like this is difficult, and sometimes even the strongest people can’t control their emotions. I wouldn’t call Jiang Cheng fragile for breaking down this way, especially after he was so convinced that he ‘hated’ WWX. Your interpretation of the information is, well, a little off, because that’s not what the author is trying to convey at all.
Here’s an example of this situation, modern-ified: (this doesn’t stick to MDZS story btw)
You and your older (adopted) brother have been close for a very long time, but he’s always been better than you. Your father loves him more, your mother spitefully compares you to him. But you love him. But your family ends up dead, one by one, all seemingly caused by him. Not on purpose, but still caused by him. But you still love him, and trust him. But he betrays you, he leaves you and he joins another family. Wouldn’t you feel betrayed? Hurt? Cheated? You tell yourself you hate him, you tell yourself that they took everything away from you, you tell yourself you never want to see them again, you tell yourself that you wished they never came into your life so your family would still be alive.
Then, you are diagnosed with cancer, you need a new heart. You get one, you survive.
Now, what if you were told that this brother, the very person who betrayed you, gave you their heart? How would you feel? You want to hate them, but you can’t, they saved you. Obviously, you would be an mess.
(So, there you go, hoped this cleared his character up for you. Personally, I love Jiang Cheng, I can relate to him, especially with the family issues. That’s the reason for this big ass paragraph.)
(Also, cores aren’t people, they’re like a little bundle of spiritual magic. WWX’s core is not WWX. So WWX’s core in JC is not WWX by his side. It’s not what he was promised, and it’s not what he wanted. I doubt JC would have asked for the core anyways, he has too much pride lolol. He would have probably just sunk into a depression or k/lled himself.)
Thank you made mr understand Jiang Cheng’s character better, I am sincerely grateful thank you
wtf are you on???????????LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I cant ever get how people can still hate JC being angry at WWX after reading this. You are being too unfair and one sided. Ofcourse us readers would get why WWX did what he did but JC was never able to understand. He can never understand how he was willing to risk everything just for the Wen Sect and even be willing to abandoned him because obviously he and JC grew up together and are almost like a family so how can WWX choose them so easily over him and Jiang Sect. We knew the answer, but JC didnt. Naturally JC felt betrayed because he treasures WWX that much and sees him like his own family after all WWX and YanLi were the only family left with him. You all keep talking about how he’s got all in his head too much jealousy for WWX and all but isn’t that the most expected thing to happen since His own father is much more affectionate to WWX who isn’t his own son, WWX being great at everything and praised so much by his own father and WWX most of the time even says insensitive things to JC almost flaunting his relationship with FengMian even though he knew that JC feels jealous towards him? Every child would be freaking jealous!!! BUT DESPITE ALL THIS DID HE ABANDON WWX? DID HE REALLY LET ALL THOSE JEALOUSY AND ENVY GO WITHIN HIS HEAD? NO. HE DIDN’T. He treasured WWX that much that even if he felt SOOOOO jealous, he didn’t want him gone or dead or to even suffer! DID U GUYS EVEN FORGET THAT HE STOPPED HIS MOTHER FROM WHIPPING WWX TO DEATH, DID HE SAY ANYTHING TO WWX WHEN WWX DECIDED THAT LEAVING THE JIANG SECT WAS THE BEST EVEN THO JC WANTED HIM AS HIS BEST SUBORDINATE? HE DIDN’T. HE EVEN SUPPORTED WWX WITH THIS EVEN IF HE WAS THAT DISAPPOINTED. He was in turmoil ever since wwx decided to live with the Wen Sect and he was being pressured by all the sect leaders, even when wwx killed zixuan he was in so much turmoil because deep insjde he knew he can never bring himself to kill wwx. But YanLi’s death was the last straw, JC lost every one of his family and we can’t deny that even tho wwx didn’t really kill YanLi, it was all because of him SO OFCOURSE JC WOULD HATE WWX TO DEATH. It was the only way he could grieve! BECAUSE PEOPLE, HATING IS MUCH MKRE EASIER THAN FORGIVING. Everything bursted within him and kept finding reasons to hate him but after knowing about the golden core, he was devasted because he knew deep down that all of it wasn’t wwx fault, that now he doesn’t have a reason to hate him because all along he knew himself how much he treasures wwx and how he sees him as his own family he can never truly hate. He goddamn lost all of his family and even his so much trusted brother? Hating was the only way he could grieve, now that he couldn’t hate wwx what was he supposed to feel? Ofcourse he wouldn’t feel happy nor forgive easily because forgiving someone you have hated so much feels so stupid you know. It’s not easy that’s why he was conflicted and didn’t know how to react. This is why JC’s feelings and reactions are the most realistic thing ever.
Exactly. I don’t think many readers here realize that JC is characterized by strong adherence to East Asian family values. He would never be able to face his ancestors if he sided with the Wens because they were not on the side of justice. So they reduce his personality to cowardice, which is as incorrect as saying WWX is evil. WWX is his beloved brother, but he ultimately casts aside their sect’s wellbeing and never provided an explanation for his actions. If he was willing to sit down and discuss, then JC would have listened.
My thoughts exactly.
THANK YOU. PREACH. my exact thoughts. The whole time i have been saying this. I never got to understand why people hated Jc. He is such an amazing charecter.
Defending those who are in need is what WWX did. Expecting him to ignore atrocity would go against good family values, in my family. And do none of those who hate WWX for helping Wen Ning’s branch of the Wens really think they wouldn’t be next if they all kowtowed before Wen Ruohan? That’s like putting your head in the mouth of the lion.
There are no saints in MDZS. WY had the good family values of not ignoring atrocity, but you can’t overlook the fact that HE himself also committed the biggest atrocity of them all — murdering 3000+ people in the Nightless City, who were just trying to defend their own homes (ironically, not the assholes like JGS) cuz his sister died. The fact that he “was in a bad place” is not an excuse for this twisted form of revenge, in which he hurt people far more than they hurt him. It’s funny that many apply the mantra that no justification exists for any wrongdoing to every character in this story EXCEPT for the main character, to which it is most applicable.
Exactly! You said everything that needs to be said! PREACH!
Before judging JC, people need to try to put themselves in his shoes. Look at things from his perspective so as to understand why he did what he did and acts that way.
JC is such a realistic character and unfortunately the most misunderstood character.
Well said. Also, Jiang Cheng is younger than Wei Ying. He needed to rebuild his home and needed to blend in with the other sects all the while Wei Ying was doing his thing. Also sister had already moved. He was totally alone. Personally, I never understood why he couldn’t see that Wen Qing and Wen Ning helped them and he should have been a bit more understanding but he had a lot going on. For me, especially the way Jiang Cheng and Wei Ying’s relationship was at the beginning, they annoyed each other but you can tell Jiang Cheng adored Wei Ying in his own way. This is also why his personality can’t give up on the promise that was broken. He spent 13 years like this. Also even though he tortured the imposters for following the path but when he discovered the real Wei Ying, he didn’t spread this to everyone. If the secret was revealed at the beginning, even with Lan Zhan by his side, they wouldn’t have been able to travel so freely.
thank you for the explanation. I find it acceptable and understand it now.
My heart cries out for JC as well, he lost everything he had,. Even WWX he thought would be there for him, has gone. I can relate so much for his hurt feeling,. It hurts like hell.
Ah, this is a good chapter too. At least maybe they can, for one thing, reconcile.
Although he was pierced right through the chest, Jiang Cheng wasn’t so weak as to have died right then…
Here that peasants.. . Y’all week af if you can’t survive a knife to the chest…. 💀
Wei WuXian, “Hug me!”
Lan WangJi, “I am hugging you!”
Wei WuXian, again, “Hug me tight!”
Lan WangJi, also, “I am hugging you tight!”
Me: poor WWX and your fear of dogs..
Okay but.. CAN WE SPEAK ABOUT HOW XICHEN GAVE HUIASANG HIS OUTER CLOTH BUT NOT JIANG CHENG LIKE AHGHHGGGGGGG
I could only imagine JC angrily flinging LXC’s coat away xD
I think both of them is at fault. WWX for not telling the truth and JC for being a childish brat. If WWX knew that he could take the truth he would have done so.
Saya lebih memilih wwx mengatakannya saat situasi kondusif dimana tidak ada dendam diantara mereka. Tidak semua hal bisa dijelaskan bro, bahkan jc juga tak mampu mengatakan bahwa dia yang menggantikan wwx agar tidak tertangkap wen. Semua nya tidak mudah untuk di bicarakan, maka kita lebih baik tidak mengetahui apapun dari pada mengetahui secuil yang membuat kita jatuh akan kesalahpahakan.
He explained why he didnt tell JC… to me, that was a selfless decision coming from Wei Ying…
I mean, the whole reason WWX even had to make that decision in the first place was because of how JC was being such a baby without his core. eyeroll
when you say that your fine but youre really not fine but you can tell them how you feel cause they’ll never understand…
Honestly, this chapter only shows some of the reasons for some of the problems. I don’t want to give away too much in my comment but I want to share my own thoughts after reading so many of other people comments. There are some who completely hate WWX and some who hate JC. If being honest, I understand both of their situations. First, JC has the right to be upset with WWX but at the same time he doesn’t, and it has nothing to do with the fact that WWX gave him his golden core. Yes, from his perspective he lost his parents and sister all due to things which may or may not have been WWX’s fault. Yes, from his perspective WWX had broken his promise of staying by his side and helping him with the sect. Yes, his father had preferred WWX more than he did him, from his perspective. Obviously, he would be angry towards WWX. However, was WWX really the cause of his parents and sister’s death? Is WWX truly at fault for JC’s father being more lenient towards him? Since the beginning of the novel we can see that JC is always the one trying to take WWX from trouble, it is obvious that wherever WWX goes trouble follows, and most of the time he wasn’t the one causing it intentionally. And so it likely for JC to blame WWX for the death of his parents because somewhere he believed if WWX didn’t always tried playing the hero and bringing the spotlight to himself then the Wen Clan wouldn’t have come to his sect in order of revenge and his parents wouldn’t be killed. Not knowing that his parents would have probably been killed even if WWX hadn’t upset them. (WWX was kind of like the enzyme in this situation, he speed up the process of the Iiang sect’s being attack.) Similar to the death of his sister, WWX wasn’t really at fault but since he was the one who created the evil power he’s obviously will be blamed for it. (Honestly, he is at fault for cultivating that demonic path in the first place, because all though he gave away his core, he didn’t have to choose that path, he could have been a farmer or something else and leave the cultivation world altogether, but I guess he just wanted to take his revenge on the Wen sect for killing JC’s parents and hurting the people he loves most, which is understandable.) In conclusion, both JC and WWX are human, and if WWX had told JC the truth they wouldn’t have been where they were, and if JC had also supported WWX as LWJ had, they would have remind close and the other sect wouldn’t have found a way to break their brotherly bond. Thanks for reading!
You do realise that the destruction of Lotus Pier was entirely caused by Madam Yu, right…? Wei Ying was about to give up his arm if it meant Lotus Pier is protected. WC already have plans to take over Lotus Pier, so it was only a matter of time before that happens.. WHAT CAUSED Lotus Pier (YMJ sect) destruction WAS MADAM YU for angering WC woman when she slapped her, and how she let her pride got the better of her, NOT Wei Ying. If you go and read that part again you’ll see. JC learned the bad traits from his mother for blaming Weiying on everything that went wrong when all Wei Ying ever wanted to do was help those who needs help or saving, and morally that isn’t wrong. What’s wrong is turning your back on those who once saved your life, or an innocent who needs your help!
And for your information, NO it wasn’t Wei Ying fault for cultivating that path when WC threw him down the Burial Mounds and he have to survived there for a couple of months. So why are you blaming Wei Ying here? Wei Ying already said so himself why he cultivated this so if you have been paying attention you would know. Him giving his GC away to JC was his choice, and it was selfless of him in doing so. JC should be grateful and not say these hurtful things to Wei Ying because he should be the person who should understand what kind of person Wei Ying is the most. And staying by his side was a promise Wei Ying give to JC, sure, but in the end, it doesn’t have to turn out that way IF JC stay by Wei Ying decisions too, and just like what JGY said later, pay attention to what he said, the reason they fall out, JC should hold the most responsible because he would rather outcast Wei Ying than staying by his side, like a brother would.
When I was watching the drama I was mad at JC but now that I’m reading the novel, I understand him. There’s too many misunderstandings between JC and WWX and it makes me so upset. They had such a beautiful relationship and it got ruined…but people should stop blaming JC because if u see his childhood and what happened with him, then I understand why he’s like this. Both of them are wrong and right at the same time
Is it just me who doesn’t like to call people from the Wen clan, at least those who are innocent and good, as Wen Dogs? I mean, the people that Wei Wuxian protected obviously doesn’t deserve to be called dogs because they are such nice people.
i agree. same here. it’s just that those who hunted the wen clan’s people are collective mob. even when they were confronted by WWX in flower banquet they clearly want to deny or still doubt that the remnants of wen clan’s doesn’t have blood in their hand. twisting the bystander reasoning towards Wen Qing… forgetting or probably deliberately not mentioning the possibility that she could’ve been threatened with her lil bro’s life.
Their brotherhood is beyond all of us. I do believe JC treasures WWX a lot and wanted him to stay by his side, just as WWX has promised him back then. Even with his competitive and violent nature inherited from his mother, he really did care and love WWX a lot, like a real family. The feeling of hating and loving someone both at the same time, I think JC was indeed fragile to not handle it on his own. Not to mention, he kept all of these to his own. Remember during the days WWX started on his demonic path, he always asked him to come back with him. It is because WWX is his brother, a forever companion and family whom he trusted and treasured but would not openly admit or show. When WWX chose the Wen sect people over him, I think that’s the time JC really did feel betrayed and unfairly treated, cause he believed WWX would stay with him forever as promised. This unsolved and unspoken feeling became bigger and bigger that he really hated WWX to the extent that he did not know exactly what to do when facing him other than openly hate him. Behind all the hate, there was pain, care, and longing as a family member.
Too much jealousy, resentment and pride. It eats away a person’s reasoning. Buried too long, his inferiority complex has left Jian Cheng so overwhelmingly bitter.
Well sumurize
I read some comments and I’m just baffled where exactly did you see examples of brotherly love from JC towards WY? Is it time for me to start wearing glasses? Cause I can see JYL standing up for him and supporting him but did JC? I mean there obviously is strong emotional bond. But bond is just bond, it can be good, bad, healthy or toxic. And theirs is a mess😕 I think what makes this book great and gets so many people so worked up😉 is how you can read scenes differently and empthatise with different characters depending on your own background. I mean I empathise with WY not feeling sure of his place in the world when he was younger. So this whole thing with him promising to be JC’s subordinate, I actually saw as WY just placating angry JC which was sort of his MO.
Anyway, why I actually dislike JC is because I just can’t abide by how he treats JL. I mean slapping him around like it’s nothing, berating, threatening and criticizing. Throwing this parentless thing out with JL present without sparing one thought whom it hurt. He craved affection from his parents when he was a kid. So he had a chance to shower his nephew with it, which would have been a much better way to honour his sister’s memory than becoming this hateful man😣
If JC truly hate WWX he would treat him as harshly as Madam Yu’s did from the beginning, spitting on him at every chance. But here, JC is often portrayed having friendly conversation with him, even carrying him on his back. What else do you want him to prove? He let him has his father’s love (if it was me, I truly won’t stand it, let alone any ‘friendly’ conversation), let him sent way three of his beloved dogs on WWX arrival coz he is scared of them (and they were children back then too! Who knows, growing up, what else he had to gave up upon his father’s order), and don’t tell me you forgot he was the one who asked our lovely shijie to ask WWX for JL’s courtesy name.
And please don’t take it lightly about his neglectful parents, especially his father who clearly favored WWX. Don’t take the hatred that came from it lightly. To me it’s a miracle for JC to even be on ‘friendly’ terms with WWX all those years. That just proved that his affections for WWX is big enough to beat his hatred and any ill intentions (tho not completely as he has the inferiority complex and envy remains).
Btw, just a thought of mine but, do you ever ponder what did WWX ever helped JC with the topic of JFM emotional abuse and favoring toward him? He’s smart so he should realize that almost half (more or less) of JFM and YZY fighting in that household is because of his presence right? At least from what I’ve seen the topic is always about that except that one time about the hairpin.
Tho despite his not-so-flowery family background I absolutely agree with you on how JC should treat JL better. As what they’ve said : “That explains it, but doesn’t excuse it”.
Oh, I didn’t mean that JC should hate WY, he obviously loves him. They bicker and tease each other like brothers and that’s normal. My point was that, to me, their bond looks very unhealthy. On one side, there’s WY thinking he is worth less than anyone else just because someone showed him kindness when he had nothing. On the other side, there’s JC obviously harbouring some resentment from childhood and jealousy from adolescence, showing mostly possessive and controlling behaviour towards WY. From reading the book, I often had the feeling that JC tried to put WY down so he could fit into a small prescribed box, rather than genuinely support him, so he could flourish. Plus, their personalities don’t compliment each other well IMO, but that’s beside the point. That’s why I said, I don’t see a great bortherly love or devotion between them, but rather a complicated, messy, codependency of sorts.
Also, what do you mean by JC letting Wy have his father’s love??? As if the kids had any choice in that. Please don’t blame children for the adults inadequate behaviour. If JC could he’d probably stick with his dogs, whom he could actually own and order around;-P I do agree that JFM sending away the dogs was some horrible parenting but all the other comments about JFM’s neglect actually come from the spiteful mouth of YZY in the book. I think she is the real abuser in that household and her problems are mainly with JFM. Do you really think they would have been a happy family without WY in the picture? Sorry, I don’t. If it weren’t for WY, she would have found another excuse to vent her temper. But that’s just my opinion:)
Jiang cheng and wie ying they love each other being a real brothers❤❤❤
I DONT CARE IF U HATE JIANG CHENG BUT I REALLY LOVE HIM AND JUST KINDA WANT TO PROTECT HIM THO I HATE IT IF HES BEING A HOMOPHOBIC BITCH
Maybe its too late for me to say this but the imo JC did the best of what he could’ve
Somewhere along the way they grew up with fucked up notions and parentings and ofc that is not an excuse.
Wwx is selfless and we know that but like also shitty self-worth yano and he felt like he had to manage everything, he tried his best but he im not sure if he ever really gave people the capability or space to grow
Like yes jc is a hot-tempered man but in his teens he unconsciously modeled his behaviour to fit in with wwx. He took seriously matters that wwx didnt and he thought all wwx need is him. All the lotus trio needed was him. He didnt feel the need to scope the horizon, he has his family and thats enough. Like he legit is a teen that reads porn and eats peanuts and drink liquor after curfew. But he had to grow up fast.
He was a leader and he modeled himself as someone serious because thats what his mother wanted him to be and because wwx isnt. Hes legit in the lan lecture like, im gonna be a good example for jiang sect and you… try not to get in trouble.
Like and listen we are sympathetic to wwx because we know his full secrets
Jc did not, as i said earlier wwx is not letting others grow hes legit making decisions for others (and i know why) but like he assumes from past behaviours a lot. Hes like “oh lan zhan cant be ____ because he was ____” and that is such a big mistake (??) on his part. He assumes jiejie as this precious sibling who can do no wrong and sticks like that. Even when jiejie says she can make her own decisions, wwx is like nope!! Imma protect you. And jc shown his true feeling to wwx the first night he lived with the jiangs so he always was mindful of how he acted around jc like he still assumes “what im going through, i cant trouble him, he cant help me” like he still sees jc as that.
Jc had a sect to build, and no explanations as to why wwx acted that way. He had a brother who grew up joking and they never made a space where they could truly be honest with eachother. In the end the miscommunication fucked them up
I cried with this scene in live action and now I’m crying again 😭
Here I feel very bad for Jiang Cheng and I can understand him…
He must feel really really really bad and it is understandable that he would be this way now… Yes, WWX made a huge sacrifice for him but JC fully knowing it now just… 🙁
He cannot just say “Thank you” and move on, it is no trivial matter. WWX gave him a precious part of himself
I have a question: isn’t WWX soul in Mo Xuanyu’s body? Since MX is (isn’t he?) a cultivator, doesn’t he have a golden core of his own? Is WWX still unable to wield Suibian even with that? This is actually the part that confuses me. I mean, since he was summoned into the body of a cultivator with a golden core, shouldn’t he be able to use Suibian now? Someone please enlighten me xD
Mo Xuanyu has low spiritual power, while WWX can still do some cultivation he cannot weild Suibian.
Aah…gotcha. Thank you!
Although I do acknowledge JC’s countless flaws and condemn his pride and immaturity, I could never bring myself to dislike him. I felt his bitterness when he lost his parents, JYL, and then WY. With them gone, he was left alone with nothing or no one to help him fix that hole in his heart. People need to understand that he’s hurting too.
When LWJ lost WWX, he found A-Yuan and poured all his love and care into this child as a remainder of WWX. JC had JL but he didn’t chose to help him grow with love and care which could have help him mend his own hurt, but chose to participate in raising with the most bitter heart possible.
jiangcheng baby:(( i hste crying
Honestly, this was probably the moment where my extreme hate and disgust for JC sort of dissipated into neutrality or mild dislike and pity. Kind of like… despite all the shit he did to WWX, if WWX doesn’t hate him, why should I… why can I?
JC’s family history, his background, WWX’s actions towards him… Stuff that I know a lot of people always cite as oh life is so unfair to JC, it’s understandable why he’d be that way…
To a certain extent I agreed and understood JC’s pain, but he went too far. He said and did things that he can never take back
That’s why despite what other people say, I will never bring myself to like JC, and I sincerely do not understand people who defend him. Yeah, WWX did stuff too, but that’s besides the point. Yes, JC had a shit family, shit parents… so? He wasn’t the only one like that, how long are people going to cling onto that as an excuse for his behavior.
Poor Jiang Cheng, ive always felt bad for him. I really do hope he and wei ying work things out
Its funny how the temple that’s hiding an evil creature becomes a therapy ground. First Wangxian and now Jiang Cheng and wei ying bromance! I love this novel so much, God bless you translators 😊❤
Pfftt. I’m baffled.
Almost all the things that I want to say have been said by other people here, so I’ll address some things that may or may not been said yet.
First of all, JC is a sect leader who had to build his sect literally from the scratch since everyone went bye-bye at the massacre. Since JYL is married off of course he’d need WWX coz he clearly doesn’t have anyone else. WWX? he’s not a sect leader. Neither is LWJ. So stop comparing JC’s acts to LWJ’s acts. There are plenty other reasons for this statement but I’ll save it for later.
Second, no matter what, WQ & WN played a role in the Wen’s plots. They didn’t kill anyone you say? Sure, how about this then. For everyone they’ve healed from the previous Wen’s rage (the Lans burning accident for example?) those people could as well be the ones who massacred the Jiangs. If they healed soldiers too not only civilians, THEY ARE NOT COMPLETELY BLAMELESS. I mean, if someone healed a murderer’s broken arm (especially the doc KNEW the murderer’s intent too) and that murderer killed my entire family? I would blast both of them in fire. “But they healed JC” you say? Sure, let’s make the tab even then. Done deal. Good and bad things in war isn’t as simple as differentiating black and white color, baby.
Third, for the love of God, if WWX is as righteous as he is now, I still pondered to this day why he hasn’t defected from the Jiang sect when JF and YZY was still alive, esp. coz that he’s already an adult and all? I’ve been expecting to see him run away from home coz he felt guilty to JC of all the mental abuse he caused him, indirectly, but that didn’t happen. He’s portrayed as smart right? Of course he knew what his presence means in that house. But he literally stayed there, only consoling JC with words now and then (even breaking his own words and promise. Truthfully, never did once WWX followed JC’s instruction right?). This is one of other reasons why you shouldn’t compare what JC and LWJ did towards WWX (not to mention, what they experience with WWX is different too!). Honestly, I’ve been astonished that he didn’t kill WWX after the massacre (I was so sure he would blew up).
Please, please, don’t take JC’s suffering lightly. I knew someone who had almost the same condition as him and they told me many times they wanted to die because they never feel worthy enough in their house. Btw, I would hate you if you hate JC’s inferiority complex and you ever hated your parents for comparing you to the smart kid.
Don’t get me wrong, I love WWX and LWJ. They’re my second favourite after HuaLian couple. But you need to know, that most of MXTX’s characters are so beautifully Made and realistis. That’s also why I love their works.